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Angels in the Orbs?

June 20, 2008
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I came across this photo on my friend’s Been Up 2 site. By the way, I think Been Up 2 is now the Bethel Church networking site. There are a zillion people who are somehow linked to Bethel over there posting photos of their wild adventures. Bill Johnson’s current wild adventure appears to be eating some of the best food America has to offer (he has taken his beloved wife on vacation and is tormenting the BSSM students with photos of such things as Kobe beef and truffle mashed potatoes while they eat their ramen noodles as all college students do.) Steve Jobs should also be paying Bethel a spokesman’s fee considering the continuous endorsement that community gives all things Apple.

Anyway, back to the photo. This is a photo of Bill Johnson ministering at Impact Christian Fellowship on December 18, 2006. He was praying for the release of miracles and this photo was taken by Max Greiner, Jr. Notice the orbs visible in the photo. Max has done an article on this phenomenon on his site and you can read the entire article here. He is an artist (take some time and browse his site – he’s good!) and has taken many thousands of photographs that have this phenomenon in them.

Bill Johnson with Orbs

One of the things I found interesting in this article is the date that these orbs were first being notices in photos, which was in 1996-1997. This was about the same time that the “gold dust” started appearing in churches. Some of these orbs have faces (notice the lion-looking one in the lower right corner of this photo). Others appear to be covered with eyes (like the living creatures Ezekiel speaks of in his vision).

I have seen orbs in photos I have taken and in photos friends of mine have taken. I actually saw an angel a few months ago standing in the doorway of the place we are meeting as an Overflow Room for the Florida Outpouring. You could feel the presence and when one of my guys drug out a camera phone, it was clearly visible as a human figure of blue light. Unfortunately, I do not own an iPhone and so the resulting photo was not as clear as what we saw on the screen.

I personally get tickled at the manifestations like gold dust, diamonds, feathers and such. I see them as just more proof of the interest the Father takes in his children. He cares enough to come and play with us (which is how humans build deep relationships, through play). By the way, I love Joshua Mills’ comment on feathers falling in his meetings. A guy came up to him and said, “I have a problem with the feathers,” to which Joshua replied, “If you have problems with the feathers, what are you going to do with the whole angel?

These type of phenomenon fascinate those in the New Age movement and those who are spiritually hungry for the reality of the spiritual realm.  Unfortunately, many of these people have tried the church and found us seriously lacking in spiritual reality.  Why on earth would you come and hear about supernatural experiences from an ancient book that the people believe tells about what once was but is no more, when you can experience supernatural things through your spirit-guide?

We have unlimited access to the God of creation and all that He has given us.  Part of our inheritance in the Kingdom is interaction with His house and all that is in it.  Do you seriously believe that what the writer of Hebrews calls an inferior covenant (the Old Covenant that God made with the children of Israel) is supposed to produce superior blessings to what we have in the Kingdom of God?  They were given covenant promises of health, healing and blessing.  They walked under a cloud by day and fire by night.  Their shoes did not wear out the entire 40 years they were  in the desert.  An angel was visibly present with them.  THEY HEARD THE AUDIBLE VOICE OF GOD, the entire nation of them did.  God fed them daily for 40 years.  The supernatural was a way of life for them.

The same is true of the ministry of Jesus.  His disciples walked in the continuous presence of God.  Think about it.  God was literally with them 24/7 in the person of Jesus.  He has told us that He is with us always.   He spent three years showing us how the Kingdom of God works and then told us to continue His work, doing the things He did and more.

The presence of our supernatural God doing His works through us is what will attract the lost.  The church has become more and more of an irrelevancy in American life.  Alternative religions are making a huge impact in this country.  Why?  They offer people a supernatural reality that the church has denied.  Again, why do we accept that an inferior revelation (the revelation that the evil one offers people of the supernatural) can produce supernatural results,  but deny that the church can and should be walking in the supernatural power of God?

One of the things that I though was very good in the article was one of Max’s comments on those who do not believe in the miraculous. Max, by the way, spent the first 40 years of his life as a Southern Baptist, which is not an organization noted for it’s flow in the supernatural power of God.

In fact, if you are a Christian with an “anti-supernatural” worldview, understand this: It will take a supernatural, unexplainable miracle of God, to take you to Heaven when you die! Just because you don’t believe miracles are still happening, doesn’t mean they are not happening. It just means you don’t believe they are happening. Jesus said you must have faith and believe first, before you get to see.

Read the article (it’s 3 pages long) and tell me what you think. I am looking forward to the the feedback.


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11 Comments leave one →
  1. June 22, 2008 12:51 am

    Stomp around on a carpet. Take some photos with the flash on. Instant angels. BTW your example photo is a very close crop of a larger shot, hence the ‘extra large angel’.

    Could we see the photo of the one that looks like a human figure?

    Where in Scripture do angels have feathers?

  2. rahabsplace permalink*
    June 22, 2008 1:58 am

    Zechariah 5:9.

    Nah, it’s a really, really bad photo.

    I have fun with the orbs and fathers and gold dust and the gems. None of that is necessary for anyone to believe in and they are really not a point of belief I am will to die for (or more importantly, destroy my brothers over). I have had the gold dust manifest. I’ve seen the oil on friends of mine. I have a gem that the Lord gave me in a meeting as a token of something he was speaking to me about. I enjoy those things, but they are not necessary for salvation or anything. They’re just fun.

    God really is fun. I have long said that where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is FUN!

  3. George Washington permalink
    June 25, 2008 2:19 am

    Email me a firsthand testimony by someone whose teeth turned gold and stayed that way.

  4. Sherry permalink
    June 25, 2008 7:53 am

    Satan himself, also comes as a bright light,
    to deceive the very elect. BE WISE AS SERPENTS,
    AND HARMLESS AS DOVES. The gold dust IS NOT
    of God. The orbs may be, but be careful.

  5. June 26, 2008 1:22 pm

    Hate to put a damper on all the fun, but do you have ANY idea how many people are now nuts over gold dust, diamonds, gems, oil and feathers? Oh, and tell me again why God wants them distracted with those things, and not focusing on HIMSELF?? I know many that are.

    SO … is that Gods plan, to give his kids toys that make them less in love with HIM?

    Oh, I guess I’m no fun.

  6. rahabsplace permalink*
    June 26, 2008 1:53 pm

    Please explain to me how gold dust, oil and feathers distract from the Lord? I have experienced all of those phenomenon. They have simply drawn me closer to Jesus. I have posted my thoughts on those phenomenon on this blog (check the archives). Signs are simply that – they point to the Lord.

    Gold and gems are the building materials of heaven (see Revelation). Feathers come from wings – angels, living creatures, the Father (under the shadow of his wings…) They are simple tokens that this world is not our home, that ours is a heavenly inheritance and that our focus needs to be on what is above and not below. They invite us to not only look at Jesus, but to remember where our true citizens hip lies.

  7. John permalink
    June 27, 2008 5:18 pm

    Personally I think an angel with the name
    “Winds of Change” is actually pretty cool. If
    the angels “Rock You Like A Hurricane”; “Zoo”;
    “Still Loving You” and just a few others would
    show up we could have a greatest hits album!

  8. June 28, 2008 3:25 am

    Bats have wings. No feathers though. Just a thought.

  9. rahabsplace permalink*
    June 28, 2008 12:14 pm

    LOL, but scripture likens the Lord to a hen gathering her chicks, not a bat bouncing around in the dark.

  10. December 7, 2008 9:52 am

    very intresting

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