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Todd Bentley

August 18, 2008
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Here is a portion of the bulletin Rick Joyner sent out today.

Todd Bentley’s Personal Problems
I did not hear that Todd was going through a personal crisis until the day before our meeting with him here. When I saw him Wednesday night, he immediately wanted to share with me about his personal problems—especially about his recent separation from his wife. Todd did not share this in a way to try and justify himself, but he wanted me to know what was going on with him to give me an out if I did not think he should minister the next day. I greatly appreciated this.

I still do not know all of the details of his separation, but I did ask him if there had been any immorality on his part, or if he had affections for someone else that was causing this. He assured me that he had never committed adultery, and that there was no “other woman” that caused his separation. Some of his leaders who I talked to also confirmed that Todd had not been in any immoral relationship, though they were all grieving over Todd’s marital problems.

The problems Todd and his wife have had getting along have been public knowledge for several years. I don’t know enough of the details to blame anyone, but I know Todd quite well, and being married to him has got to be like being hand-cuffed to a hurricane. Todd is so intense he makes Mike Bickle and Bob Weiner seem laid back. I think he is very much like the Apostle Peter. What makes him capable of such extraordinary faith also makes him prone to extraordinary blunders. Todd is an extreme manifestation of an emerging extreme generation. His wife may deserve to sit at the right hand of the Lord in the kingdom, and anyone who has worked with him should be up there close somewhere too.

Like it or not, that is often the nature of those who accomplish some of the greatest spiritual exploits—they also make some of the biggest bloopers. Hearing about these problems did not surprise me at all. Since I have now heard about more details, I’m still not shocked. These are problems, and they need to be fixed, which includes repenting and turning around, but if we want the victories and breakthroughs we all hope and pray for, they usually come through people with the same kind of nature. Right after Jesus gave Peter one of the greatest commendations in Scripture for the receiving the greatest of all revelations, that Jesus is the Christ, and then gave him the keys to the kingdom, He had to give Peter one of the greatest rebukes in Scripture by calling him Satan! (see Matthew 16:18-23)

However, the Lord did not take the keys back from Peter, even after he later denied the Lord, and even later in his life when the youngest apostle, Paul, had to publicly rebuke him (see Galatians 2:11-15). It seems that most of those who are given these keys to unlock the spiritual doors to the kingdom will also be prone to make major blunders. This type of person is simply not going to do anything small—they will have great victories, and when they have defeats, they will be great too.

When I was in Lakeland a few months ago, I was told that Todd had been making a real effort to patch things up and heal their relationship, but in June she had left and refused any contact. Todd has now lost hope that it will be worked out, especially now that she has made it clear that she will not even see him. Todd is obviously frustrated and just wants to resolve this situation that has been so hard for so long.

In marriage, I have learned there are those who admit they have been through times when they wondered if their marriage would make it, and then there are liars. Relationships are hard, and the closer they are, the harder they can be. I tell everyone that I give premarital counseling to that the Lord has ordained their marriage in order to kill both of them! That is true. It is also worth it! The greatest gift He gave to man was marriage and family. However, to have a marriage that is good, both will have to die to themselves. If either one does not make the commitment to lay down their life for their mate and their family, then what was meant to be heaven can be hell.

Family is the foundation of society, and the weaker the family is, the weaker that society will be. The weaker the families are in the church, the weaker the church will be. That is why the family life must be strong of those whom the church accepts as leaders, and there are clear biblical standards for them. If we start compromising the clear biblical standards for morality, integrity, and relationships, we will fall, and we will fail at all that the Lord has called us to. Compromising clear biblical standards can never be on the table—for anyone, regardless of how much power they walk in, how great they can preach, or how they can mobilize people.

We are also living in a society where about half of the people have now been divorced. Many more are refusing to get married because of the problems they have witnessed and the pain they suffered when their parents went through a divorce. The children are always the biggest victims of a divorce, and the meltdown in family is one of the great tragedies and great emergencies of our times. It is therefore understandable that some want to make a big deal out of Todd’s marital problems—it is a big deal.

So, should someone who is divorced be disqualified from ministry or from leadership in the church? How can we disqualify someone from ministry or leadership for something that would disqualify God? In Jeremiah 3, we are told that God gave Israel a certificate of divorce. God is divorced. Nearly half the people in our churches have been divorced. A good many Christians now stay away from the church because they have suffered a divorce, and they feel condemned by the church for it. This is an issue that we need to address for the church, not just Todd.

When God got a divorce, was it His fault? Of course not! He was the most perfect Husband there could ever be, but He had a wayward wife that He finally gave up on. That is what happened, and if you do not believe me, go read it yourself. There is a limit to what even God will put up with and rightly so. There are things that justify divorce. Even so, I think it is because the Lord Himself went through a divorce that He hates divorce so much. Divorce is always a tragedy and usually even more for the children than for the parents.

I am not at all saying this to justify Todd or condemn him. At present, I still do not know enough about his situation to condemn or justify anyone. Unrighteous judges, who are often those who rush to judgment, are also condemned in Scripture. I am writing this to try to keep some from stumbling by jumping to conclusions. We have a brother, a sister, their children, and a ministry that is really hurting right now. I greatly appreciate Todd’s willingness to keep ministering and praying for the healing of those who are afflicted and hurting, but he, his family, and his ministry need much healing right now. One thing that would help them and the body of Christ, possibly more than anything else, is to see some real Christian charity expressed in this situation and some righteous judges stand up, which is the duty of true elders in the church.

It would be one of the great tragedies to the body of Christ in our times to lose a ministry like Todd has. He is called to start much more than the Lakeland Outpouring, and just as the Lord went around destroying the works of the enemy by healing the sick, casting out demons, and demonstrating the power of the kingdom, Todd is doing that. He is taking ground in real power ministry on a level that has not been seen in decades. To lose Todd, and to lose Fresh Fire Ministries, would be a major defeat for the body of Christ. We would survive, and we would still ultimately prevail, but the cost of this defeat would be great.

So what do we do? First, in all things we must keep in mind that “love never fails” (see I Corinthians 13:8). How would the Lord respond to this? How can we see this through His eyes? We already know because He showed us. In II Corinthians 5:14 Paul wrote, “For the love of Christ controls us.” How would we behave if Christ’s love was controlling us? When mankind fell, He did not criticize, gossip about us, or condemn us—He laid down His life for us.

The world will never believe our gospel of redemption and restoration until we learn to redeem and restore. Let’s take a worst case scenario here and say that Todd was guilty of terrible things and is the one at fault in the separation—what should our response be? We are told in Galatians 6:1:

Brethren, even if a man is caught in any trespass, you who are spiritual, restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness; each one looking to yourself, lest you too be tempted.

So, if anyone has been “caught in any trespass,” those who are “spiritual” must restore them. Those who are truly spiritual approach every situation with that goal—redemption and restoration. This is more than just forgiving them—it is getting them back to the place they were. The next verse says, “Bear one another’s burdens, and thus fulfill the law of Christ” (Galatians 6:2).

Already there is some gloating over this situation. Some are trying to use it to promote themselves. Every situation like this is a test for everyone. Some will pass and some will fail, and the nature of everyone will be exposed. Those who truly walk in the Spirit of Christ will be obvious. The Holy Spirit is the Helper, and those who truly walk by the Spirit will be trying to help, because they love Todd, his wife, the church, and most of all, the Lord who already laid down His life for them.

This is a real opportunity for the church to show some maturity and Christian love. This does not mean compromise, but it does mean addressing this situation in an almost opposite way that we have tended to do in the past. We will all reap what we sow, and if we want to reap grace, we must learn to sow grace every chance we get. If we want to receive mercy, we need to learn to sow mercy every chance we get. Here’s a good chance!

So what does this mean for the Lakeland Outpouring? I will address that in a bit more depth in the next Bulletin, but for now, it can continue and it can get even stronger. A well has been opened there that does not have to be shut again. However, it does depend on a lot of decisions made by the church there. We should be praying for them and asking how we can help them because they were used to release something very important to the worldwide body of Christ.

I have already seen a great deal of gloating on the Internet over the problems Todd is having and the obvious satisfaction of certain individuals who are saying, “See, we were right.” You were nothing of the sort.

Todd is having marital problems and that has nothing to do with his tattoos or his angels. If you are saying that his doctrine caused this then Charles Stanley must have false doctrine, too, and be a false teacher, because his wife divorced him and he has refused to step down. Now, my New Testament Professor was a Southern Baptist and his wife left him. As long as he was single, he was not allowed to pastor in the SBC. As soon as he remarried, all was right in the world of the SBC and he was allowed to pastor again. Seems a bit of a triple standard here.

I am not privy to the intimate details of Todd’s marriage, and neither are the of the heresy hunters. My brother is going through hell and I will stand with him and pray for him. He’s my brother and Jesus expects nothing less of me.

Our focus as Christians in this needs to be interceding for a terribly hurt family. Todd, Shonnah, their three children and the ministry family that they have created need healing.

11 Comments leave one →
  1. BWA permalink
    August 18, 2008 5:02 pm

    When I read about Todd’s problem I was greatly grieved and it has caused me to look at my own heart as well as how we the church have failed miserably in how we deal with these issues. Right now I can hear people loading their rifles as we are the only army that shoots their wounded.
    I am praying for Todd and Shonnah that their marriage is saved and that Todd can continue to do the work the Lord has called him to do. I hope Todd will take a year off and learn how to love his wife and spend time with his kids. These relationships are invaluable and supercede the task of holding revival meetings.
    I may not agree with Todd on some of his theology or methodology but I do know he is a brother in Christ that needs our love and prayers. If we can’t do this for a fellow brother in Christ then how will we ever fulfill Christ’s command to love our enemies?

  2. Ellen permalink
    August 18, 2008 8:44 pm

    Maybe it does have something to do with who TB is and what he preaches. Maybe his wife sees him for who he is – a fraud – and refuses to stand by that nonsense any longer. And as for Todd, there are plenty of women hanging around who will, in her place.

    Todd Bentley like Peter. Um, yeah.

  3. rahabsplace permalink*
    August 19, 2008 2:34 am

    Maybe, just maybe, Rick Joyner knows Todd better than you do. Since I somewhat know Rick and have for 20 years, and since his view is balanced, biblical and filled with the kind of mercy Jesus showed to me, I would have to go with his attitude rather than yours.

  4. Valeriana permalink
    August 23, 2008 8:07 am

    I attended the revival services in Lakeland only once. In addition, I watched several others prior to and afterwards, live — on God TV. I was not fully convinced [either way] that this was a genuine move of God, nor was I convinced it was not. As most Christians, I was skeptical; but discerning at the same time. After the ‘in person’ meeting in Lakeland, I was convinced of one thing, not to judge incorrectly…if people are getting saved, healed, and set free from their sickenesses and bondages to sin, who am I to judge…While pondering these thoughts, suddenly it occurred to me, I was reminded of the historic situation the disciples found themselves facing as they were trying to spread the gospel to their people in Israel –in and around 63 AD, the advice of one Pharisee, named Gamaliel, who was also a “doctor of the law” as well as a member of the Council in Jerusalem. This is what I concluded:[I also feel the members of the Body of Christ should consider taking note] this ‘timeless’ and ‘sound’ advice is recorded in Acts 5:38-39; it is a passage that would be very appropriate for those of us in this generation as well. This passage of scripture really helped to take all the focus and pressure off of myself and others, to try not to determine who is real & who is not [when the situation is not so distinct to make a good judgement call in the matter]. I am glad I took this approach and did not cast stones then, nor do I cast them now. I am, however, very sorry to hear that this situation has indeed fueled the critics [those who are supposely called as the “watchdogs” over us in the Body of Christ] and disappointed others, those who may now question the gifts of the Holy Spirit, as well as any other future move-of-God. These are the people who will suffer from this indescretion the most…[the wife and family members are “a given” in the matter]. The Devil is well aware of what he is doing. He knows that if he can just put a seed of doubt within the Church regarding ANY move being that of man and not God, and ANY minister being a false-prophet or another Jim Jones,[who started out doing good], he [Satan] knows he can accomplish exactly what he did in the beginning in the Garden of Eden with the fall of mankind. By discrediting the man, the move, and the ministry, the person who is used by God, he, [Satan] in-turn, can then discredit the God this man has represented to others. “Same-ole’-same ole'”. Satan does not have any new tricks, just new subjects. To the Bentley family: I am praying for your soon recovery from this tumultuos trial–May our Lord bless and keep you, and may the comfort of the Holy Spirit be with you throughout this ordeal.

  5. LaraR permalink
    August 24, 2008 8:20 pm

    Todd Bentley needs to be held accountable for all the false doctrine he has been preaching and teaching. It’s sad that his marriage is in trouble and yes we should be praying for him and his family, but what is more tragic and what I deem is a much greater offense is all the people that have been affected by his false teaching, exagerrations, and even outright lies. WHAT ABOUT THEM? The sheep need to be protected from wolves in sheeps clothing and unsound, flaky and extra-biblical doctrine. There are obvious serious underlying issues going on with Todd that need to be addressed and dealt with, when that happens maybe then there will be hope for his marriage.

  6. rahabsplace permalink*
    August 24, 2008 8:44 pm

    Please name for me specific false doctrine that he taught in Lakeland. Please name for me specific lies. Exaggerations, maybe, but Jesus did it all the time in scripture, only there exaggeration is called hyperbole. Please show me in scripture where sound doctrine is the basis for a sound marriage, and then let’s talk to Charles Stanley about his divorce.

    And please tell me who is the judge of sound doctrine?

  7. shawnwilson permalink
    August 25, 2008 4:19 pm

    Todd, we are praying for you BROTHER. Rahab, most people that look for “sound doctrine” are looking for it from their denominational background and NOT from Historical Christian teaching…..I leave those brothers and sisters alone because they are “always right” and never open to the idea that maybe they are wrong.
    Great blog by the way.

    Much love,

  8. Florida Dawn permalink
    August 25, 2008 10:44 pm

    Please name for me specific false doctrine that he taught in Lakeland. Please name for me specific lies.

    Well, C Peter Wagner himself today labeled Todd as a liar and a deceiver…and that comes from Todd’s Apostolic covering. It seems that not only did Todd lie, he swore his own staff to secrecy regarding this lies. I’ve enlcosed a copy of the email I received from Peter Wagner today.

    I was at the revival from the 2nd night (April 3) until near the end of May. By then, something just didn’t add up, particularly with many of the testimonies of “healings”. Being in the medical field for over 20 years, as well as being able to personal talk with several people there, these “reports” were questionable at best. Anyway…here is the email from Peter Wagner….

    C. PETER WAGNER – President / DORIS M. WAGNER – Executive Vice President
    CHUCK D. PIERCE – Harvest Watchman

    A Message from Peter

    An Update on Lakeland from Peter

    August 25, 2008
    I was in the San Francisco airport on my way to Singapore and Indonesia when the news of Todd Bentley’s separation from his wife became public on August 12. When I arrived back home last week, I found that Doris had received and replied to around 1,700 emails and the stack of correspondence on my desk was unbelievable. It took me the rest of the week to catch up!

    During the week I was gone, a major watershed occurred regarding the Lakeland situation as most of you would know. We are now on a new playing field. Lakeland Outpouring I, in which Todd Bentley was the main figure, is now history. Lakeland Outpouring II, in which Stephen Strader of Ignited Church is the main figure, has begun. The Outpouring started in a local church, went to a tent, and now is back in the local church. My suggestion is that we no longer use the term “Lakeland Outpouring” but rather distinguish between Lakeland I and Lakeland II because they are very different.

    Let me talk a bit about the present, then revisit the past, then project the future.

    The Present

    It will sound surprising to some, but Lakeland II in Ignited Church, which you will remember was the original host church, is going very well. The big crowds and GOD TV, of course, are gone. Ignited Church seats around 700 in the main sanctuary and Stephen Strader reports that on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday evenings they have to use their overflow room. It is comfortably filled on week nights. The morning training sessions continue with a couple hundred every day, and teams continue to move daily into the streets of Lakeland spreading the gospel. Percentage-wise the dramatic miracles and healings occur nightly with probably a higher percentage of salvations on a daily basis. Support from local pastors is improving considerably. The most interesting report is that every night some 30 percent are first-time attenders, meaning that people are still coming to Lakeland from the outside to experience Outpouring II. A lady from our church with a severe chronic back problem went to Ignited Church and came home healed! Such a thing does not usually happen when a public figure suddenly goes down the tubes, so we need to take our hats off to the apostolic gifts and role that Stephen Strader is demonstrating for us.

    Speaking of the public figure going down the tubes, Todd Bentley now carries the label of a liar and a deceiver. I’m sorry to mention it, but I felt personally deceived in the same way when Ted Haggard’s sin was exposed and he was immediately removed from ministry. In the Lakeland I case, I am elated at the way things are turning out. The Revival Alliance with whom Todd was aligned on June 23 has kicked into action with a vengeance. Ché Ahn and Bill Johnson, like me, were overseas when things broke, but John Arnott stepped up to the plate and moved in apostolically. It has since become clear that Todd’s Fresh Fire Board could not have handled the situation, Stephen Strader and Ignited Church could not, nor could any of his other close friends. Only the Revival Alliance could. I am delighted that they are not buying into typical charismatic soft morality, also called “greasy grace” or “don’t touch God’s anointed” or “mercy must triumph over judgment,” phrases that have been used on other similar occasions as convenient religious cop-out excuses. They’re proceeding in love, but it is tough love!

    Since this is an update, I will share some of what I know about what is happening with Bentley, but not all because some things need more verification and it is up to discernment of Revival Alliance what and when this will be revealed. Suffice it to say that there is more than I am going to mention. First of all, Todd has been removed from public ministry until further notice. He has resigned from the ministry he founded, Fresh Fire, so he is no longer a part of that board. It has become clear that he indulged in periodic drunkenness. He has no intention at the moment of reconciling with Shonna, nor does she with him. Their marriage has been torn for years by his emotional attachment with at least one other female whose physical contact went beyond hugging and kissing and holding hands. Enough said-maybe more details will be revealed later-but it was clearly immoral. All of this was skillfully concealed by lying and by swearing close associates who had observed his behavior to secrecy. Stephen Strader, for example, knew nothing of this before June 23. Apparently some of his board members did, but they did not have the ability to deal with it.

    The Past

    I hope this is the last time I will have to address the past. It is now history. But as history is written, I feel that I have some responsibility of helping to have history be written accurately, especially since I have turned out to be a lightening rod for a number of severe criticisms.

    Most of you know this, but let me reiterate to keep it on record. Previous to around the middle of June, my interest in Lakeland was about a 2 on a scale of 1-10. Then I got a call from Stephen Strader, the host pastor who was a member of ICA, which I lead, with a passionate appeal for apostolic intervention because chaos and confusion had begin to invade the Outpouring I. Toward the end of the hour we were talking, I received one of my infrequent direct words from God: “Alignment!” Just one word, but I knew I had a divine command and responsibility.

    Once I knew that God had assigned me to initiate some sort of apostolic intervention at Stephen’s side, I began praying and consulting with close colleagues. In less than two days I discovered that Todd Bentley had no formal, established apostolic alignment. I asked God how I should proceed, especially since I had no inclination to attempt an apostle-evangelist approach and expect that Bentley would submit to or even listen to what I had to say if I made an appointment with him in Lakeland. I felt that proper apostolic protocol would be for me to deal with one or more peer-level apostles to whom Todd had aligned apostolically. Since as yet he had no such alignment, I began asking God how such an alignment might come about. He directed me to my close friend, Ché Ahn, who himself is apostolically aligned with me and who also had been close to Bentley for years. Ché agreed that the best apostolic protocol would be for Todd to align with the Revival Alliance if he were willing. Ché called him and Bentley agreed to submit publicly to the Revival Alliance.

    At this point some disagreements arose. I have already mentioned that I was consulting with several apostolic colleagues whom I trusted and whom I know trusted me. It is very necessary for us to understand exactly what the disagreement was about. It was about the most appropriate apostolic protocol for the occasion. After prayerfully listening to the different points of view with careful consideration of what was being said, the decision had to be mine. I believe that God’s word to me about “Alignment!” had to be directional. I concluded that the best protocol was to do the alignment first, then deal with the issues that had been raised. My other friends disagreed and urged me to deal with Todd’s problems first then do the alignment. I respected their point of view and I was very sorry that I had to follow God’s leading for me personally instead of taking their advice. It was not a comfortable decision.

    Now let me address what was behind much of their disagreement with my apostolic protocol. They were concerned that if I appeared on the platform with GOD TV, many viewers would interpret it as my personal endorsement of everything that was going on in Lakeland I, and since they were so closely associated with me, they would be implicated as well. This was a legitimate concern, and one I seriously wrestled with as I made my decision. If I went to Lakeland and presided over the alignment, some might well take it as an endorsement. It was a risk, I knew. Let me say personally that all my life I have been a risk-taker instead of a play-it-safe person, and I have taken many hits for it. As an example going to the jungles of Bolivia as a career field missionary when I was 25 with my wife and a one-year-old baby girl was a serious risk. Both that daughter and another who was born in the jungle without medical attention came close to losing their lives during those five years. And we were criticized for our decision to take the risk by many, including parents!

    Closer to the Lakeland I situation, I have a private list of no fewer than 18 high-profile Christian leaders starting from the 1970s until Bentley for whom I took risks. For each one of them I took serious criticisms and in some cases personal hits even much more serious than I have received in this current case because I endorsed or partnered with or provided alignment for them. Some were typified as “crazy!” However, I can pretty much discern winners, although not always. My track record for the 18 is 72% emerged as real winners (you would know most of them), 17% ended up losers (including Bentley), and 11% indecisive. I’m sorry for the losers, but they prove I am not perfect. The point I am making is that I am no stranger to taking risks and living with the fallout.

    One fallout from Lakeland I is that several have resigned from ICA and other organizations that I lead because they no longer want to be identified with me. Others are still upset. Still, believe it or not, I think that everyone involved is still my friend. We just disagree.

    I want it understood that I did not go to Lakeland on June 23 for Todd Bentley. I had never met him personally. I had no knowledge of and little interest in his ministry. I went because I received an apostolic plea to help bring order to the confusion and chaos that was sweeping through the body of Christ worldwide because of the television. I went strictly for the body of Christ at the invitation of the host pastor of the Outpouring I.

    The final question is: Was it successful? Looking back, I praise God for using me and others to help bring order to confusion, which is one of the chief biblical tasks of an apostle. Stephen Strader, who has been keeping records, affirms that the evil that the prince of the power of the air had been subtly introducing into the Outpouring I started to be exposed and unraveled the day after the alignment, June 24! Spiritually, this is very understandable. Just about every leader I knew had discerned that Lakeland I was a mixture of the godly and the ungodly. We were praying in one accord that the evil would be separated from the good. My take is that God had decided to answer these prayers and in order to facilitate His process, He assigned me and the Revival Alliance leaders and others who were with us to align Todd Bentley apostolically for the first time in his life. When we did this publicly, spiritual transactions took place in the invisible world that would not allow the enemy to maintain the veil of secrecy he had carefully placed over the Outpouring. The evil was exposed, Revival Alliance had the authority to deal with it, and the net result is that order is replacing chaos in the body of Christ.

    In my section above on “The Present” I gave you some details. Believe me, they are only the tip of the iceberg as I just learned from a new phone call even as I was writing this paper. The proper apostolic structure, happily, is in place at the time of crisis!

    The Future

    It is now important to recognize that from now on we have a different playing field. Two separate things are going on. (1) The Revival Alliance is dealing with Todd Bentley and the fallout from his sin that has been and continues to be exposed. (2) I have told you previously about a group of 11 apostles that I have formed into the Lakeland Outpouring Apostolic Team. We no longer need to deal with Lakeland I and Bentley as such. However, we have a list of 24 serious issues that have emerged from that unpleasant experience which need to be thoroughly discussed with the conclusions circulated in the body of Christ. If you have seen Dutch Sheets’ recent “A Statement and Appeal Regarding Lakeland” you will get a glimpse of some of the things that we agree need to become standard operational beliefs and practices, particularly in our charismatically-inclined evangelical segment of the church.

    It will take time, but our Apostolic Team will get to work on the 24 issues after some of this present dust settles, and we will be back to you!


  9. rahabsplace permalink*
    August 26, 2008 8:16 pm

    You still did not tell me any false doctrine he taught in Lakeland. Todd sinned,just like David did. God is no more interested in destroying Todd than He was David or Peter. I just posted an article which points out that in less than 50 days after denying Jesus, Peter was the lead evangelist on the day of Pentecost.

    I am transcribing a sermon by Bill Johnson, who is in relationship with Todd, unlike Peter Wagner and unlike Peter, he is not willing to throw Todd to the sharks. He is interested in restoration, not destruction. Of the two, I believe Bill more closely resembles the heart of Jesus.

  10. blessed permalink
    November 8, 2008 5:04 am

    We heresy hunters are children of God just like you. We are not less than you or your enemy. We are people who value the Word of God and see Todd as a wolf not a sincere brother. Todd had much wolfish behavior, did he not? Merchandising prayer cloths, lying in the pulpit, lying about angels and crazy visions, drinking, adultery, these are all sins. Instead of codding the guy as a hero, why not rebuke him and tell him to get a job and earn a living honestly. This is what the Bible teaches. The way you say heresy hunter is condescending. God brought Todd down because of his pride and lies, and praise Him for it. He humbled the exalted.

  11. La-Tanya permalink
    April 21, 2009 7:26 pm

    I am so glad that we have rallied around our brother instead of choosing to throw stones. The world can now see the unconditional love of our Poppa!!!

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